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Boo-f***ing-hoo: Liverpool not lucky
I must admit its the first time I think Ive not celebrated a Liverpool winner in my almost 50 years of supporting them. It felt bad. PSG were excellent and we were quite terrible.
But then I awoke this morning to the almost hysterical reaction including LEquipes headline screaming Daylight Robbery and the general reaction of rival fans. I get it. People want England taken down a peg or two and the superficial see that the gain last evening was over to pure luck pervaded.
But heres another view. A manager is there to create saves. A military is there to support. And If the opposition lose probabilities then thats at least partly over to the quality of that defending. None of these items are down to chance. And Liverpools purpose? Also not wonderful. PSG were excellent first quarter and deserved to win nevertheless. But they couldnt keep it up next quarter and England worked them out. Thats what hero clubs do.
Derek LFC
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In response to all of those maiming about how lucky Liverpool are winners win, losers cry at home complaining about how lucky the winners are. Maybe you get the brush of the clean, sometimes you dont. The record books will present who won and who lost, never who cried and bitched about who was wonderful.
Jimmy the Gent
So we do all know Pool may include lost last night. I think the fact that this type of crush and get rarely happens for them is precisely why its caused such a reaction. what is unique is fantastic after all.
But if I was a Parisian fan I would have thrown the isolated at the TV properly before Elliott scored as I watched Dembele, or whichever additional player, shoot from outside the box but once or some ridiculous angle. PSG annihilated Liverpools center and forwards but their killed variety against Liverpools low prevent was dreadful.
They ended the game with an Xg of 1.85.. sad all but thats really not that great. To place this in view, Liverpool racked up an Xg of 3.92 against ManU at Old Trafford in the division last year and drew 2-2 simply by getting a late charges. While were at it Pool had an Xg of 2.19 in the final against True in 2022 but didnt rating, Real had an Xg of 0.91 and did. People remember the various articles after these activities about England being robbed? No, me either.
But lets please no believe this doesnt arise to different clubs all the time. True Madrid won the competition in 2022 after getting completely obliterated in the balance of play during every single knockout round against PSG, Chelsea, City next Pool just for Benzema frequently to turn it on for 10 or 15 mins and send them through.
One of my favorite stats is Chelseas maiden champs league trophy in 2012 against Bayern. The Germans had an Xg of 3.17 to Chelseas 0.6 in the final.
Gotta bring in Will Frauds article now. Mainly the sarcasm when saying the Prem is considered the best league in the world but then look at what Frances best team did to Prems best team. amazing what looking at one single game can do right?
Lets forget Pool finishing top after 8 games, absolutely eviscerating Leverkusen and Madrid along the way.
Lets forget 3 Prem teams finishing in the top 8, more representatives than any other league. And one of them being 10th place Villa who beat Germanys best team and should have beat Juve. Thats what the Prems 10th best team can do to other leagues best. Cant wait to reference his article again when Liverpool destroy these lads at Anfield.
Luis Enrique no doubt told his players lads under no circumstances can this tie go to Anfield under the lights and be within reach of Liverpool, we need to put them to the sword tonight. And they bloody well played like it, but stats show they should be 2 goals to the good, thats all. However, they DIDNT win, and neither did Bayern in 2012, and neither did Pool in 2022, and neither did AC in 2005. on and on and on and on.
This happens all the time folks, just very, very rarely in Liverpools favor hence the outcry.
Patricio Del Toro
Just a quick thought on all this daylight robbery chit-chat.
Alisson played very well. But thats what the best players do. He stopped the opposing team from scoring. He was better than them. As hes part of the team that scored more than they conceded, the best team won.
As for the red card incident, file under youd be fuming if it was given against your team.
Si, LFC
Theres no point pretending otherwise, Liverpool were poor last night. Far too passive in possession and, until very late on, they showed no sign that they could turn PSG around. However, the hairsbreadth offside aside, Im not sure how much luck played into it.
It wasnt luck that Alisson was better in a one on one than Dembele nor luck that several PSG players in the first half snatched badly at chances. It wasnt luck that Liverpool limited PSG to shots from outside the box for the entirety of the second half. It wasnt luck that saw Nuno Mendes switch off completely to allow Harvey Elliott the freedom of the Parc Des Princes to run into so that Darwin Nuez could pick out an easy pass to him.
Minutes before the goal Salah played a tired and wayward through ball that should have sent unez through one on one. It presumably wasnt luck that saw Salah subbed soon after to be replaced by the goalscorer. And, of course, its not luck that Alisson is just a better keeper than Donnarumma.
The game certainly felt like Rorkes drift ( PSG players, thousands of them! ) but the PSG xG was surprisingly low ( less than 2 according to my app of choice ). So, while the Reds were not good and may still lose the tie, I dont think it was entirely the miraculous avoidance of a massacre that has been portrayed. As for Luis Enriques assertion that PSG deserved the win, in the words of Unforgivens William Munny and The Wires Felicia Snoop Pearson, deserves got nothing to do with it.
Niall ( Alisson Paris 2025 = Schmeichel St Jamess 1996 )[19659031[]19659032 ]Darwins evolution
The title of the email doesnt have much to do with the content but as a play on words it works so Im sticking with it, ok?!
In your excellent Liverpool smash and grab article you state that many Liverpool fans would not have been hopeful seeing Darwin coming on as a sub last night.
I beg to differ.
I was very pleased to see him arriving on the scene because Jota, as much as I love the little Portuguese terrier, was not fast enough to trouble the PSG defenders. We needed speed and strength to stretch and panic the defence and thats just what Darwin brought to the (one-sided ) party.
Far be it from me to tell Arne how to do his job but ( for me Clive ) Darwin should start next week to bring a little doubt and pressure to that defensive line. Sure, he might end up being all PSG and missing loads of really good chances, but hell unsettle them and may even have his shooting boots on that night.
Overall Im still ( sadly ) in the Darwin should be sold in the summer camp, but hes a player with some great qualities and might be just what we need at Anfield against this opposition.
Adam LFC, York ( PSG were incredible at pressing, just didnt give us a moment on the ball all night ).
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Appreciating a sense of Man Utd reality
Adidasmufc in a world of Goldbridge and Saeed, that email was unbelievably refreshing to read.
Alex Fergusons unprecedented level of domestic success has left a generation of United fans thinking that theyre Englands version of Real Madrid. Theyre not. 20 titles, 18 of which have come under just 2 managers. England doesnt have a Real Madrid ( and in fact, Liverpool are the closest this country has ). Lets not forget that before 1992, they had been champions of England fewer times than us, and 27 years had passed in between titles.
I do understand that the game is now different. Of the Premier League big 5, they were undoubtedly the side who made the most of the commercial side, helped by Cantona and the Class of 92 ( who some fans still think are like the Lisbon Lions. Theyre really not ). But the Abramovich led step change wasnt grasped by the board, nor by Ferguson.
Yes, theyd spent lots of money ( check out the transfer fees for the 99 Champions League final starting XI, and dont forget the missing captain fantastic was a British record when signed from Forest ), but the idea of replacing him with Moyes was doomed from the start, and that sort of parochial thinking doomed them, just as it is now. It must be lovely to have Kobbie Mainoo and Garnacho from the youth academy. Im sure theyre going to be great players. But neither of them is Giggs or Keane, or Scholes, for that matter.
Its time for United fans to wake up and realise that this might not be a blip.
Aidan, EFC, Hoxton
Club DNA is a nonsense
Ive thought about it ( for 2 mins ) and have decided that Club DNA is not even a thing, there is only Personal DNA.
Prior to Jose, Chelsea werent the most winningest ( an Americanism I dont actually mind! ) of clubs so didnt have any kind of league-winning or CL-winning DNA.
But you bring in Jose who is the posterboy for winning DNA and combine that with players with winning DNA (JT, FFL, Drogba the whole lot of that era tbh ) and whaddya know, the results flow.
Prior to Fergie, United didnt have any recent league or CL winning DNA. Fergie personally had it as proven by his success domestically and in Europe with Aberdeen. He gets rid of players he doesnt believe in, gets in winners and whaddya know, the results flow.
Prior to Pep, City were establishing themselves as winners ( Mancini has winner DNA ) and you then add more quality to that and you get more winning.
Prior to Klopp, Liverpool had forgotten how to win leagues. Klopp had recent German experience overcoming the Bayern Behemoth and turns doubt into belief as he has winning DNA and silverware follows.
I could go on but you get the idea. No club has a winning ( or losing DNA ), they just have individual managers and players who are ( or arent ) winners.
Clubs that appear to have a winning DNA are just good at recruitment.
Mark, LFC, An Mh