Liverpool definitely deserved to conquer PSG because they did hit PSG, come and watch the NBA if you disagree. And Spur are up in their death routine.
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I suggest the second man to be made redundant at old Manchester is the person who chooses what pins to use. I counted 8 slip to zero. ( Yes Im very sad counting such sh*t but it was a boring game) but the point still remains.
Tony
Bentancur. Bergvall
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But Tottenham will have to do without midfielder Rodrigo Bentancur in next Thursdays home leg after his third booking of the season. reads the 5th , article of BBC Sports write up of the Heels activity. Sky Sports News had anything comparable.
In the words of Vicky Pollard, do I look like Im bothered though? Bentancur is a beautiful looking footballer. Little Jamie Redknapp. Touch Anderton. A bit every lightweight Spurs midfielder of the last 30 or so years. He hid against England and Villa in the glass, he hid suddenly against AZ. He plays sports like his crew are two or three up with 15 days to come. He hides so much that deeply promising 18-year-olds ( looks like an angel but is a proper knife man ) make funny issues because theyre scared no one else will take responsibility. Which they wont. Bergvall being suspended would be a history. Bentancur isnt.
And another issue. Solanke got injured after 20 hours. Romero got injured after 15 minutes on his return against Chelsea. Im not sure that health team knows how to state players or getting them back from accidents.
Finally, have you ever seen a more depressing-looking training team? They all merely lay there still. No single talks to one another. Theres no much preparing or conniving. There definitely isnt any pleasure in their job. There are just plain expressions. Card take Jason Tindall and his questionable pranks over that bit any day of the week.
Were a warm disaster.
Cheers
Andrew
Luckypool
Donnarumma should have saved that shot from Elliot but he didnt.
Alisson had little right to save some of those Parisian pictures, but he did.
Next time I checked the guard is part of the 11.
Rob, Hove
Genuinely intrigued to know the MBs objective views on the Konate incident. I get if you dont like Liverpool youd want him off but as far as I could see it was a neck boat. Fair activity in the 90s, is it now? If you were playing Sunday club and your keeper did that would you be incensed by a dark? I sort of consider it could be but Profile be livid.  , It seems like people get aside with it because they are not using their hands. Virgil does it a lot, always gets blown.
PSG were so much better, but Elliots target was the most satisfaction Ive felt so far this year!
Put your team interests off and explore!
Tom, Leaning in.
Following our admittedly slightly fortunate win Vs psg arsenal fans have been crying on social media.
For years I couldnt understand why. I get Everton supporters doing it or perhaps United followers. Why are fleet viewers crying about what England does or doesnt accomplish?
Therefore I realised, the cause they cry is because England achieves things fleet fans can only dream about.
Sleep well arsenal fans of social media, its the only time youll have a chance of a champions league trophy
Lee  ,
Liverpool kept PSG completely at arms length
One of the interesting things Ive noticed about the PSG v Liverpool game is how perspective can be skewed. Conventional punditry wisdom is that Liverpool were battered 0-1 and Liverpool got lucky. However, a trip to Opta might give a different impression if you look at the xG and how they rated the chances. It turns out that roughly half of PSGs 1.78 total xG came from the one v one against Dembele that Alisson saved that also saw a couple of shots blocked from Barcola in the immediate aftermath. All of those fabulous diving saves we all saw him make actually came from very low xG chances that the PSG forwards hit superbly. It was essentially a masterclass on ball striking by the PSG forwards and a masterclass on goalkeeping in response.
Armed with that knowledge, it swings the pendulum slightly back in favour of a victory built on really good defending by Liverpool as opposed to absurd luck. They by and large limited PSG to taking shots with low likelihood of scoring, with that one exception. Now, make no mistake, I freely admit that PSG dominated possession of the football, and were far, far better with the ball than Liverpool, with superb pressing to boot. Id just suggest that a day removed from the action with cooler heads suggests that Liverpool actually defended really, really well too, and earned that clean sheet.
Just wanted to push back on some of the utter codswallop Ive seen making the rounds even seen one journalist try to claim that Liverpools clean sheet was so lucky that saying they had been lucky is utterly inadequate, which seems a bit extreme for an xG of less than 2
Greg, Taunton. ( Looking forward to seeing my mail misrepresented for ragebait in the bold bit. Might I suggest something along the lines of Liverpool kept PSG completely at arms length, or something similar? I know you guys are better at that than I am, so please, go wild! Itll be fun. )
Celebrate good times, come on!
Derek LFC
I read this , I must admit its the first time I think Ive not celebrated a Liverpool winner in my almost 50 years of supporting them
and immediately called bullsh*t and bolox!
If you havent celebrated that goal, after being under the cosh for almost the entirety of 87minsyou sir are a liar or not a fan of the scoring team
I have to restrain myself more often than like as it totally freaks the dog out for ages after, he thinks Im mad at him ( or something I guess ) He just stand and stares at me for almost 90min every game ( although non Liverpool games depend on the comms and co comms He much prefers Lucy Wards calm tones to Darren Fletchers shouting ) but briefly lost my sh*t when that went in..  , was impossible to contain!
But I digress
We were def lucky, why pretend otherwise ..?
Was a fantastic win and we were pretty much totally outplayed. Im fine with that, thanks!
Al LFC Dont be silly Derek !..
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Disclaimer- I am a Liverpool fan, but I watched the game with an Everton fan and no productive discussion was had, so I have come to the famously reasonable and non-reactionary forum of the internet , to discuss it.
But Liverpool absolutely , deserved to win, because they , did. I think the entire appeal of football is that the best team is not at all guaranteed to win. Goals are rare in football, which is why drama and unpredictability is so prevalent, and also why detractors might call it boring. If you want to see the better team win, football is plainly the wrong sport for you, go watch incrementally scoring sports such as the NBA, their season is getting towards the business end right now.
I have seen more times than I remember Liverpool dominate a team and not win the game, and Liverpool did not deserve to win those games, because they didnt. You only deserve to win a game if you actually win it, barring some complete refereeing calamity such as penalties or disallowed goals I would say.
Maybe my bias is showing, but I dont class the Konate incident in that category as it wouldnt have provided a clear goal opportunity , to PSG. Its not like Liverpool suddenly turned on after that, if Konate was off it may not have been so different, I dont think it was possible for PSG to dominate more anyway. Liverpool were certainly lucky he wasnt sent off though, clear red.
Many have already written in to point out the stupidity of calling the result lucky as a whole, but it is absurd to say, its not lucky that Allison is as good as he is. Maybe you could say PSG are unlucky in that maybe the same shots would beat many other keepers, and the Konate incident.
Anyway, in short, I think its , worth remembering that the reason we bother watching matches is that the winners often arent the best team, but are still deserving winners. And incredible players doing incredible things has nothing to do with luck.
C, Greece.
Trent out of shape
So for years Ive been a huge critic of Trent. Ive made my feelings known on this website. Hes a Hollywood passer. He costs Liverpool so much possession every game because he constantly looks for that big pass. When he gets it hes lauded but never gets criticised for the amount of down right awful attempts he makes and for the amount of times he loses us possession. Commentators and internet experts alike never hold him accountable.
I wonder is it because hes English I hope he goes in the summer. For me Bradley, although not as good with the Hollywood type passes is definitely good on the ball, pacier and a much better at defending. The stick Trent got after the United game from Liverpool fans was so uncalled for. Why? Because its not the first time hes looked half arsed in a game. Its probably the first time they notice it because of the contract situation. Its amazing how fickle fans can be. Im not fickle, I just know what I see and I have for years with that chap.
Anyway Ive anyways wondered, nay, Ive always known, but without proof, who the player is that loses the ball most in possession. Im not talking Liverpool, Im talking the league so here you.. guess who?  , Surprise suprise!! Go to Madrid please. Well be fine without you just like when Owen, Coutinho et al left. The main one we need to stay is Big Virg. The rock and soul of this team!
Alex
Offside or not
A caveat to start off: The example used is just to reflect the thoughts on offside, not about the match itself ( Liverpool pulling out that win is just how football can be at times ).
On the Kravadona ( I would butcher his actual name, so going with the nickname ) offside goal, it just makes me question what the offside rule is meant for. Essentially, my understanding is a player is offside if they 1 ) impact play or 2 ) gain an advantage from it.
In this case, the player was coming back from a marginally offside position to receive a pass to feet and then cutting inside to shoot. If he had received a pass in front of him or turned toward the outside and shot, totally understand that being called as offside as he had an advantage, no matter how slight. But the actual situation makes me question where that advantage is.
All Im saying is there should be some flexibility and situational context applied. Ive seen other similar scenarios before and its as though the refs apply the law because its safer than going against it.
Jason, Singapore
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Club DNA is nonsense
Funnily enough, Ive had the club DNA type topic on my mind recently, and did a bit of digging ( i. e. a google search of League winners and then a quick paste into Excel with a Pivot table ).
Whilst in the past 50 years, several clubs have won multiple leagues.  , As Mark, LFC, An Mh correctly pointed out, that history/club DNA is very much a manager of the moment not the club DNA.
In the past 50 years, the clubs that have won the league with multiple managers are :
Liverpool = 4 ( probably soon to be 5 )
Chelsea = 3 ( but you could argue, that really, its 1 owner )
Man City = 3 ( similar to Chelsea, 1 owner )
Arsenal = 2
Thats it.
Even Manchester United with the most titles in the past 50 years ( 13 ) won them all with 1 manager.  , Theres no legacy there, they were even in the 2nd , tier in that timescale ( just ).
Decent manager who can get the best out of players/buy the best players, is how you win, not DNA.
Matthew ( ITFC in Brum )
